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Episode poll 14.12: “Prophet and Loss”


Your thoughts on 14.12, 'Prophet and Loss?'

LOVED IT
5(29.4%)
Loved some, liked some
2(11.8%)
Loved some, disliked some
7(41.2%)
Loved some, hated some
3(17.6%)
Liked it
0(0.0%)
Liked some, hated some
0(0.0%)
It was okay
0(0.0%)
Didn't really care for it
0(0.0%)
Hated it so much, I'd rather spend the rest of my life comatose in the Happy Daze Nursing Home than ever have to watch it again
0(0.0%)

Things I loved about this episode

Dean's dream about being in the box
12(2.9%)
Particularly the way he called out for Sam
15(3.6%)
Particularly the way he woke up with bleeding fingers from clawing at the wall in his sleep
13(3.1%)
Single-layer Sam in sweatpants and stocking feet
13(3.1%)
Sam refusing to sugarcoat Dean's future, telling him it's going to be worse than dying
12(2.9%)
And telling Dean that being 'shook' from his plan wouldn't be the worst thing, since his plan really sucks
14(3.3%)
'The woman has a remarkable command of profanity'
14(3.3%)
Dean apologizing for not being the greatest brother
10(2.4%)
Dean admitting John sent him away sometimes
9(2.1%)
Sam asking for no conversations that sound like deathbed apologies
13(3.1%)
Sam finding a case to distract Dean from his Deathbed Apology Tour
16(3.8%)
Sam and Dean both recognizing Enochian characters, because OF COURSE THEY DO, SHOW
17(4.0%)
Guys in suits and overcoats
8(1.9%)
Dead brother parallel conversation with the victim's brother
7(1.7%)
Sam lied to Dean about not telling Cas about his plan, and he doesn't even feel bad about it
15(3.6%)
Dean's awkward how's my uncle? still alive? phone call
7(1.7%)
The Winchesters being SO PISSED at the murdery guy, because they know God was NOT talking to him
13(3.1%)
Dr. Novak
6(1.4%)
Cas telling Dean how stupid his plan is
8(1.9%)
'If there's a spark of hope, then I have to try; you taught me that'
9(2.1%)
Parallel conversation about Donatello trapped in his own body somewhere between life and death
6(1.4%)
Donatello is back!
4(1.0%)
Angry, sarcastic, possibly drunk Sam saying 'we're celebrating, right?'
17(4.0%)
And talking about how much he looked up to Dean and copied him and followed him to Hell and we saved the world, we don't just check out of it
17(4.0%)
And HITTING DEAN and then grabbing him in a hug and CRYING
16(3.8%)
'I believe in us! Why don't you believe in us too?'
16(3.8%)
Dean giving in and saying 'okay, Sam, let's go home'
16(3.8%)
And teary-eyed, sniffling, hair-in-his-face Sam not quite believing it
16(3.8%)
And Dean making him promise to let him go if that day comes
12(2.9%)
And PATTING SAM'S FACE and saying 'Don't hit me again, okay?'
16(3.8%)
Any part of Nick's story
1(0.2%)
The pretty
12(2.9%)
The angst
12(2.9%)
No Mobby
7(1.7%)
No Jack
1(0.2%)
No angel drama
10(2.4%)
No demon drama
10(2.4%)
Comments!
0(0.0%)

Things I didn't like about this episode

Gruesome murders
6(10.3%)
Sam wouldn't let Dean talk about his feelings
2(3.4%)
Sam tried to make Dean's Deathbed Apology Tour all about HIM
0(0.0%)
The Impala was forced to pull a trailer
5(8.6%)
Sam lied to Dean about not telling Cas about his plan
0(0.0%)
Murdery guy sure lost his faith quickly
5(8.6%)
Nick didn't recognize his wife's ghost
7(12.1%)
Because she looked nothing like his wife
6(10.3%)
Nick didn't end up dead
13(22.4%)
Sam hit Dean
0(0.0%)
Cas can suddenly heal Donatello, even though he couldn't before
10(17.2%)
No Jack
4(6.9%)
No Mobby
0(0.0%)
Comments!
0(0.0%)

Things that shattered my heart into a million little pieces

Dean crying out for Sam in his panicky dream and waking up with bloody fingers
15(7.4%)
'Put the end of this trip out of your head'
11(5.4%)
Dean apologizing for not being the greatest brother
13(6.4%)
Dean admitting John sent him away sometimes
13(6.4%)
Sam asking for no conversations that sound like deathbed apologies
11(5.4%)
Dead brother parallel conversation with the victim's brother
5(2.5%)
The Winchesters being SO PISSED at the murdery guy, because they know God was NOT talking to him
3(1.5%)
Parallel conversation about Donatello trapped in his own body somewhere between life and death
2(1.0%)
Donatello is back!
0(0.0%)
Angry, sarcastic, possibly drunk Sam saying 'we're celebrating, right?'
15(7.4%)
And talking about how much he looked up to Dean and copied him and followed him to Hell and we saved the world, we don't just check out of it
16(7.8%)
And HITTING DEAN and then grabbing him in a hug and CRYING
16(7.8%)
'I believe in us! Why don't you believe in us too?'
16(7.8%)
Dean giving in and saying 'okay, Sam, let's go home'
17(8.3%)
And teary-eyed, hair-in-his-face Sam not quite believing it
16(7.8%)
And Dean making him promise to let him go if that day comes
15(7.4%)
And PATTING SAM'S FACE and saying 'Don't hit me again, okay?'
16(7.8%)
Nick did something bad to his wife's ghost, but I don't remember what it was
0(0.0%)
Nick is STILL HERE
4(2.0%)
Comments!
0(0.0%)

What do we think about Sam punching Dean?

WE LOVES IT, MY PRECIOUSSSS
12(27.9%)
It was inappropriate
0(0.0%)
It was out of character
0(0.0%)
It was perfect because it showed how much anger and heartbreak and despair and frustration he was dealing with
16(37.2%)
It was perfect because Dean has punched Sam in anger so many times, and now he gets to experience it
2(4.7%)
It was perfect because it was SO emotional and angsty
12(27.9%)
I need to discuss it in the comments
1(2.3%)

Why is Rowena helping?

She cares for Dean and wants to save him
2(6.7%)
She cares for Sam and wants to save his beloved brother
5(16.7%)
She cares for Cas and wants to save his friend
0(0.0%)
She wants the Winchesters to owe her, big time
8(26.7%)
She knows there's no way Sam is letting his brother spend eternity locked in a box with an archangel, and she wants to make sure Michael is destroyed
5(16.7%)
All of the above, probably
10(33.3%)
Comments!
0(0.0%)

Biggest surprise in this episode

The return of Donatello
0(0.0%)
Dean wasn't really in the box
1(4.2%)
Dean put a towing hitch on the Impala
4(16.7%)
Sam punched Dean
4(16.7%)
It was a Buckleming and it didn't suck
15(62.5%)
Comments!
0(0.0%)

Pick one

DEEEEAAAAAAAANNNNN!!!!
0(0.0%)
SAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMM!!!!
5(29.4%)
I refuse to choose just one
12(70.6%)

How spoiled are you for the next episode? (NOTE THAT THIS IS NOT AN INVITATION TO POST OR DISCUSS SPOILERS HERE. DO NOT DO THAT.)

SO SPOILED
3(17.6%)
I know the one big thing that everybody knows, but that's all
14(82.4%)
Pure as the driven snow, and my fingers are stuck in my ears and I'm going la la la la la la
0(0.0%)


Remember, no spoilers in the comments, please!

Posts from This Journal by “14.12 prophet and loss” Tag

I'm still on a blissful high from this episode!

I don't think it was that Nick didn't recognise his wife, he was just hoping that it was Lucifer coming to him as his wife just like it was all those years before (and I did wonder myself for a moment).

I only know the big thing that everybody know about the next episode, but I'm still quite upset that I know that. I was doing so well until the magazine article came out and all the cast posted about it...

I actually liked this episode, which is confusing because A) I don't like S14, didn't even like S13 or most of S12 so I am (or was) regrettably very close to done with this show and B) Bucklemming, like the poll says. :-) But I found it emotionally gripping and (EXTRA surprisingly) rather tightly written. And the performances, for both the main cast and the characters of just this ep, were off the charts. I loved the interview with the twin and the parallels to Sam and Dean.

I do want to ask other fans, though... was it more disturbing and horrific than usual? I mean, for the show overall? I generally dislike horror, which is why it's weird that I love this show so much--it's despite rather than because of the horror, though SPN taught me that I can appreciate a good scare. But I don't know if it was because it was so well-acted, but I could not take the murder scenes. I had to watch them with my eyes squinted, on mute with subtitles. Trying to figure out why this ep in particular got to me that way. There have only been a few episodes that were worse in that way for me (the one where Alastair tortures Meg and it's really sexualized jumps to mind).

I absolutely loved the end scene. All the Sam and Dean scenes really. But the punch-hug combo was one of the series' best hugs IMO. And JEBUS, Jared acted the HELL out of that scene. This was the first time in a while the show has genuinely made me cry; both Js' performance was a big part of that. Maybe Bucklemming is getting better....